MANY SECRET underground bases have now been completely cleared out… materials, equipment, and personnel… by yet-unknown forces. An international coalition, intending to overthrow the Old World Order, and free humanity from enslavement, is claiming responsibility. They also appear to have extraterrestrial assistance in this mission.
Truth or fiction? You decide. ( Read the whole story at Divine Cosmos.com )
Sept 20: Russia Reports Nuclear Explosions Hit US Military Tunnel Network
A frightening foreign military intelligence directorate (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that over the past nearly 36 hours the vast intercontinental military tunnel complex constructed by the United States Air force over the past nearly 45 years was hit with two powerful nuclear explosions at its main terminuses in Colorado and Virginia used nearly exclusively by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)… ( More ) Strange Sounds
The Original Story
Sept 16: TWO HUGE underground cities were destroyed on August 23rd—which may be seen by historians as the critical moment in which the war was won. 80 countries have now formed an alliance against the Old World Order/Nazi-esque cabal.
From David Wilcock, Friday, 16 September 2011.
“On Wednesday, September 14th, 2011, I interviewed one of the most interesting and controversial figures on Earth. The information in this interview has the potential to rock the world. If the story is true, it already has…
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The full, unabridged transcript of this interview follows. Headlines and extra comments have been added to enhance readability and context for the interview. The best way to get you started on this amazing journey is just to hit the ground running. So here we go…
Benjamin Fulford: 30 Years as a Financial Journalist
Hi there. This is David Wilcock, and you’re listening to another Divine Cosmos audioblog exclusive interview with Benjamin Fulford.
Fulford has worked for Forbes Magazine as the editor for the Asia-Pacific region. People have tried to attack his credibility on this before, but it is documented. I have checked the references myself.
He was mentioned by Stephen Colbert in one show discussing the so-called Illuminati.
I will also say that Fulford has contact with an incredible number of different sources. He does seem to back up who these sources as much as humanly possible.
NUCLEAR STRIKES AGAINST UNDERGROUND BASES
Recently, these sources informed him that the earthquakes that occurred in Colorado and the Washington DC area, surrounding August 22nd and 23rd, were, in fact, apparently nuclear strikes against underground military facilities.
[These underground bases] have been built by the US government, ostensibly since the early 1960s, at the cost of trillions of dollars of undocumented taxpayer money that is going into these “black projects.”
The reason why I contacted Benjamin Fulford is I had [first] read this on his blog [and was amazed.]
Then I started to contact my own sources, which have been built up over being a public figure on the Internet since 1999—and gaining the trust of many people in various classified programs.
I was absolutely astonished when I started to ask around and found out that everyone I know, with one exception who probably wasn’t on a need-to-know basis, confirmed that this attack did happen.
THEY NEVER IMAGINED IT COULD HAPPEN
Now again. I’m going to turn it over to Ben in just a second. One more setup thing I want to say here is this.
If you haven’t understood the gravity or the implications of what I’m telling you right now, it’s important to point [one thing] out.
These guys never imagined that these underground facilities could have been attacked. Ever.
So what has happened here is a seismic shift in this insider war—that is arguably as significant as the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II.
And in fact, it may very well be the workings of the Universe, in terms of karma, that the people responsible for those attacks have now had it happen to them.
CODE RED—ON A NEED-TO-KNOW BASIS
There is undeniable significance in this happening. I was astonished at the depth of detail I have been able to get from my own sources about what happened.
I have been told that the situation is now considered Code Red. However, it is also being withheld from most of the people in these [classified] programs. It’s on a need-to-know basis.
Even the sources I am in contact with, all except for one, did not even have the need-to-know basis high enough to know why this happened. Or who was responsible for it!
MINING FOR INFORMATION
So the only thing we know is that the powers that were, as I like to call them, have been putting out stories on the Internet about this event.
What they’re actually doing is they are trying to mine for information. They want to find out who knows what.
And I am astonished that my own sources lack the knowledge that Benjamin Fulford has been putting out as to who is responsible for this… and why [it was done].
UP TO SIXTY THOUSAND DEATHS—AND NO INSIDER IS SAFE
My intelligence suggests it is possible that as many as 30,000 people were in each of these two underground cities at the time that [the explosions] went off. So we’re talking about the potential of 60,000 deaths.
We’re also talking about the potential that anyone else working for these programs who is in one of these facilities, which could either be underground or possibly off-world, such as in a space station, on the Moon or elsewhere… is now totally alone and unguarded.
They are not going to be protected. They are not safe. And their superiors are not informing them of the risk they are now in by being in those locations.
SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT
I want to set the record straight. I want to get the man to talk to you, the public, and hear, firsthand, what the hell is going on, who did this, why did they do this, and what are the implications.
So Ben, that’s my intro. Let’s hear from you now. I’m very interested in this.
BRETTON WOODS SET THE STAGE
BF: There has been a very esoteric battle over control of the dollar printing machine for the global financial system.
What happened was that at the end of World War II, at the Bretton Woods accords of 1944, Britain, France and the US were given the right to control the world’s currency.
They were supposed to have a Marshall Plan to develop Africa and Asia as well as Europe.
They reneged on their promise, and instead started to fake a “Cold War” with the Soviet Union—which was designed to support the military industries.
77 NON-ALIGNED NATIONS SET UP GLOBAL COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS
Then, the group of non-aligned nations—77 nations—pooled their assets… all their wealth, their gold and other valuables… and set up some global collateral accounts.
They wanted to use this money to start the Marshall Plans for Asia and Africa.
KENNEDY TRIED TO END THE FED—AND THE COLD WAR
President Kennedy agreed to go along with this after he found out that there was a group that was trying to very seriously get the Soviet Union and the United States to annihilate each other. This was the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The historical accord is called the Hilton Green Memorial. This is available to any serious researcher in financial history.
President Sukarno [of Indonesia] was the signatory for the countries. He was going to give Kennedy—they gave Kennedy 140,000 tons of gold.
Kennedy passed a law allowing Congress, not the Federal Reserve Board, to create dollars [from these gold-backed global collateral accounts given to the United States.]
Kennedy also said, “Let’s go to the Moon, instead of this Cold War, to stimulate industry. Let’s develop the poor countries and let’s develop space instead of having this fake Cold War.”
KENNEDY WAS ASSASSINATED—AND THE CLOCK RAN OUT IN 1994
Kennedy did put out a lot of money, but he was assassinated. As you know, the public space program just disappeared in the 1970s when that funding ran out, and just stopped completely. President Sukarno was hounded from office.
The international agreement that left Britain, France and the United States in charge of the world’s financial system expired in 1994. That is why they wound down the Soviet Union.
After 1994, there was no accord at the very top level of the world’s financial system about who would be in charge next. There was a split in the ranks.
CHINA AND NON-ALIGNED NATIONS WANTED FINANCIAL CONTROL
The Chinese and the non-aligned nations were pressuring the oligarchs who had been running things since World War II to hand over control of the dollar printing press—the financial system—but they were reluctant.
The international court of justice at the Hague was sued by the Chinese over gold that the Federal Reserve Board owners sold them.
THE FED HAD TO PAY UP ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2001
The Federal Reserve Board owners lost this lawsuit, and they were told to hand over the gold… starting on September 12, 2001.
Instead, on September 11th, 2001, as you all know, they gave the world the finger and started this huge, fake, global war on terror. It was part of an attempt [at controlling the planet] by the fascist groups of World War II.
THEY WANTED GLOBAL FASCISM—AND 90% FEWER PEOPLE
The Nazis and their fascist sympathizers in the US, and England, and Italy, [along] with a group that can be found within the military, in Congress, and in the Vatican, were going to set up a global fascist government.
At the same time, they had this belief that there were too many people. Especially too many, according to them, inferior brown-type people.
They wanted to reduce the world’s population by 90 percent.
DW: This is documented?
BF: Yes, it’s very well documented.
I was invited to join this group by Heizo Takanaka, who was the Japanese finance minister for five years. I have a tape recording of this invitation to prove it.
THEY WANTED TO HIDE UNDERGROUND AFTER NUKING THE PLANET
They were planning to hide in these underground bases after they set off a nuclear holocaust.
The original plan was to start a nuclear war between Iran and Israel, and use that as an excuse to set up martial law in the G7 countries—and then prepare for war against China.
RUSSIA AND CHINA CUT THEM OFF
This plan fell apart when Russia kicked them out—and Putin re-asserted independence for Russia. That removed their control—the oil industry—and made that whole plan not work.
The Chinese also stopped buying US treasuries for a while to put pressure on this group.
THEY OFFERED TO PARTNER WITH CHINA IN WORLD DICTATORSHIP
So they switched strategies. Instead, they tried to suck up to China and offer them a world dictatorship… in partnership with this group.
That’s why in public you saw Obama visit China in 2009 and offer a “G2”. This is how you can confirm this.
THEY ARE BEING CUT OFF—AND ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY
In any case, this group that carried out the 9/11 attacks has been under increasing pressure, and under isolation, at the very highest levels.
They are running out of money. They are being cut off.
WHAT ABOUT THE “MISSING” 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS?
DW: Ben, right before September 11th, a lot of people forgot about this. Donald Rumsfeld goes on national television and says that they “lost” 2.3 trillion dollars from the Pentagon over the previous decade.
Does that have anything to do with this gold thing you are talking about?
BF: Oh yeah.
FINANCING “MURDER INCORPORATED”
That money was used to finance Blackwater—a private army not controlled by the Pentagon.
The Pentagon would not let themselves be controlled by this cabal. So they were trying to do what the Nazis did in World War II—create an elite SS corps that could bully the regular military.
That was where that money went to, as far as my sources are concerned.
BF: In any case, we were contacted by smugglers, drug smugglers…
DW: Could you just say who “We” is, for a minute?
THE WHITE DRAGON SOCIETY—MANY GROUPS COLLABORATING
BF: “We” is a group of us who are involved in the fight to overthrow this cabal.
It includes members of the CIA, the Pentagon, the [intelligence] agencies, and various [other groups], including Asian secret societies.
We use the name White Dragon. There is another group that calls themselves the White Hats.
We all have the same goal, which is to get this insane group of people out of power.
DW: Some of the criticism I have seen from people on the Internet is, “If this group is so vast and so powerful to fight this cabal, why is Benjamin Fulford the only one talking about this?”
BF: These people like their secrecy—and I am a spokesperson.
When you go to the White House, there is only one voice they give to the public. They prefer to work behind the scenes.
You’ve got to realize we’re dealing in a world where they use assassination like most of us use tissue papers.
IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO STAND AGAINST THE CABAL
BF: I’ve had about six murder attempts myself. One of my colleagues, a CIA guy, was recently poisoned with ricin by these guys.
Another one of our members in Switzerland has guards around his house, and they just shot someone last week near his house who was trying to kill him.
Before that, they found a Mafioso by the name of Vincenzo Mazzamaro who had a gun and a sophisticated lock-picking device, and was trying to get into his place.
Another one of us had a concrete bag miss him by a couple of inches last week.
BF: We’re dealing with some very dangerous people. That’s why there is a need for secrecy.
FULFORD IS BILINGUAL AND HIGH PROFILE IN ASIA THANKS TO FORBES
DW: I’ve also speculated [the following reason why these Asian groups entrusted you with this responsibility.]
You are in Japan, and you’re a “gaijin”—a foreigner, a white person. You have the background of being a distinguished editor for Forbes Magazine.
You are bilingual, you do speak fluent Japanese. There are several videos you have released now that show that.
This might have been part of what gave you this platform to give these Asian secret societies a voice.
Would you say that is correct?
WHY WASN’T JAPAN USING ITS MONEY TO HEAL THE PLANET?
BF: What happened in my case was that I asked a very simple and obvious question when I was at Forbes.
The Japanese people—that includes both public and the private sector—have about 8 trillion dollars worth of assets overseas.
DW: Eight trillion dollars?
BF: Yeah. That’s in the public record. You can go to the finance ministry homepage and the numbers are there.
According to the UN development report, you need 400 billion to stop environmental destruction and 200 billion to end poverty.
So I’m saying, “Hey, you guys, why don’t you end poverty and stop environmental destruction?”
DW: Okay, hold on, hold on.
BF: It’s a no-brainer!
400 BILLION? THAT’S IT?
DW: 400 billion is all it takes to completely stop environmental destruction? How is that possible?
BF: That’s an annual budget. This is the UN development report. You’d have to go through their experts and find out how they did those numbers.
DW: Okay. But that’s public domain.
So the eight trillion is vastly more than what it would take to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.
JAPANESE REVENUE DRAINED FROM RECONSTRUCTION DEBTS
[Wilcock note: Elsewhere, Fulford said he found that a significant percentage of Japanese revenue was being paid to the oil cabal—thanks to exploitive reconstruction contracts with high interest rates that were signed after World War II.
These contracts were reinforced with bribery, blackmail, death threats and assassinations of Japanese government officials who didn’t agree.]
90 PERCENT OF WORLD SAVINGS ABSORBED BY US MILITARY
BF: The other thing is that if you look at the statistics, you realize that 90 percent of the world’s savings was being sucked out of the system by the US military-industrial complex.
DW: How do you prove that?
BF: I was a financial journalist for 25 years. This is all public-record stuff.
DW: Ninety percent of the US budget is going to the military.
BF: There’s an easy way to check. Just look at the US external trade deficit and compare it to the US military budget. You’ll find an amazing similarity over the years.
BF: That’s for the simple reason that the military does not produce tradable goods. They were a parasitic entity on the world economy.
WHY NOT HEAL THE WORLD AND COLONIZE SPACE?
What I said was simply, “Look. Why don’t you just stop paying for this military?” I told this to the Asians, “..and instead ask them to [end poverty and environmental destruction] and set them to exploring space?”
It’s the sort of thing that’s just common sense.
DW: Okay, Ben, your audio just cut out on that last sentence. [Missing content was replaced in brackets.]
BF: I think that is common sense.
BF: What happened was that an assassination order came out for me.
The South Korean secret police informed the Chinese that there was an order to have me killed.
You can check. My colleague Paul Klebnikov, the Moscow bureau chief for Forbes Magazine, was shot nine times outside of his apartment in Moscow.
He was still alive when the ambulance came an hour later. He got to the hospital and he was put in the hospital elevator. The elevator was stopped for eight minutes—and he died in the elevator.
He was investigating a member of this same group that I was.
He was investigating Boris Berezovsky, one of the oil tycoons.
I was investigating Heizo Takenaka—but they all go back to the same cabal.
THE WAR ON TERROR WAS OBVIOUSLY A FAKE
BF: In any case, the South Koreans told the Chinese that an assassination order was out for me. This was because of my publicly calling for the Asians to stop spending their savings on this vast military machine.
You have got to remember, during the Cold War they actually had this anti-Communism excuse.
But, the War on Terror was so obviously fake that it was just ridiculous to anybody who does any serious research or investigation.
CHINESE SECRET SOCIETY OFFERS PROTECTION
BF: I got invited to join a Chinese secret society that offered me protection from this assassination order—and that’s how I found myself in this secret world of financial power.
The group that offered me protection was the group that was behind the non-aligned nations.
It crosses borders. If you think in terms of countries, you don’t understand how these people work.
They have big factions in China, in the US and in Europe—both against and for them. It crosses borders.
If you think in terms of nation-states, you won’t understand how these groups work.
CHINESE FIGHT FINANCIAL BATTLE BY BUYING REAL ASSETS
In any case, a financial battle started. There were many, many public salvos.
In 2006, the Chinese wanted to use their dollars to do something other than buy Treasuries.
They tried to buy the oil company Unocal. Congress passed a law saying they could not.
So then they took their dollars and they went to Africa, South America and everywhere, and started spending them on real things—like mines and agricultural land and commodities.
Not virtual things—like fancy and impossible to understand derivatives products, which are basically con jobs.
DW: Ponzi schemes. Yeah.
FOOD AND OIL PRICES INCREASED BY CABAL
The other group tried to retaliate by jacking up food and oil prices.
Remember there were hunger riots in 33 countries at one point.
BF: It was an economist at the World Bank who pointed out the reason people were going hungry was that they were paying farmers to grow oil [ethanol made from corn] instead of food.
That put an end to that.
2008 LEHMAN SHOCK WAS ASIAN COUNTER-ATTACK
Then there was a counter-attack.
The [leaders of the cabal] were told that we would no longer accept dollars printed within the United States.
That’s what you know of as the Lehman crisis.
76 PERCENT DROP IN JAPANESE CAR EXPORTS TO THE US
You can check this in the public record.
If you look at Japanese export statistics, from October or November 2008, after the Lehman shock, you will see something like a 76 percent year-to-year drop in Japanese car exports to the US.
This was the Japanese and other people saying, “You can no longer use paper to buy stuff from the rest of the world. You have to trade with real things.”
Of course, your public was not let in on this.
DW: That’s where I think people’s brain is going to get busted. Nobody publicly knows that this Lehman shock had anything to do with Asia.
BF: Yeah, I know. The way you can check it is to look at the export-import statistics after the Lehman shock.
The other way to check it is to look at the Baltic Dry Index. That’s the price of shipping.
90 PERCENT DROP IN THE PRICE OF SHIPPING
You will see that the price of shipping dropped 90 percent right after the Lehman shock.
BF: That’s because the ships were no longer going to the US, full of stuff, and then leaving empty [with nothing but worthless paper and IOUs].
These are ways people can verify what I’m saying with public-record information.
DW: Good. Okay.
NORWAY SHOOTING WAS AN ATTEMPT TO EXTORT 1.5 TRILLION
BF: Getting back to the blowing up of the underground bases, this group was being cut off more and more at a high level, and they were running out of money.
They were trying to extort money from various countries.
They killed the youth group of the ruling party in Norway—that was the Norway attacks—because they were trying to extort the 1.5 trillion-dollar oil fund the Norwegian government controls.
They were saying, “Hey, we’re going to kill you if you don’t hand over your money.”
DW: [They were] just desperately trying to find cash.
BF: Yeah. They invaded Libya to take over their oil fields, because the Libyans told them, “We’re not going to give you oil for your paper anymore.”
NUCLEAR BOMB SMUGGLED INTO JAPAN WITH 70 KILOS OF MARIJUANA
BF: In the case of Japan, again, I have sources who are actually drug smugglers. They have been selling drugs in Japan for 70 years.
These are CIA types. The CIA drug-smuggling division.
They told me that a nuclear bomb had been brought in with their latest shipment of drugs.
This was a 70-kilo shipment of adulterated Thai marijuana that was brought in through Okinawa.
They found a nuclear bomb mixed in with it.
And of course, with these guys, smuggling drugs is one thing, but smuggling nuclear weapons is another.
They told the police, and they told me. I made it public.
They followed the bomb as far as the North Korean citizens’ association headquarters in Tokyo.
FOUR NUKES STOLEN FROM THE RUSSIAN SUB ‘KURSK’
I have independent confirmation from a Mr. Paul Lane, of Pentagon military intelligence—he was a part of the Men Who Stare At Goats group—that four nuclear weapons were stolen from the Russian submarine Kursk after it sank.
I think it was in 2000 or something.
It was one of those nuclear weapons that was smuggled in [to Japan].
DW: Stolen by who, though?
BF: This is the Odessa group. The Nazi group. The one that was trying to set up a fascist world government—a Fourth Reich.
DW: Okay. How did they get to the Kursk to get these nukes out?
BF: I don’t know the technical details, but they have submarine bases in various parts of the world. I assume it was from one of these submarine bases.
WHY STEAL NUKES IF YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN?
DW: The next question, then, would be why would they need to get it from the Kursk if they are powerful enough to make their own?
BF: The public nuclear devices are under strict safety protocols. You can’t just take them and then blow them up somewhere. There are too many people involved in the chain of command.
They tried to do that.
MINOT AIR FORCE BASE INCIDENT: FAILED SMUGGLING ATTEMPT
There were incidents where [the good guys] just barely stopped a nuclear…
DW: Right. Like the Minot Air Force Base incident.
BF: Yeah, exactly.
DW: The soldiers did a mutiny and would not commit this “Broken Arrow”. That’s what they called it in code terms.
[Insiders attempted to smuggle out a nuclear weapon from Minot AFB. Several of these heroes died as a result of standing up against this plan and refusing to allow the nuclear weapon to be stolen.]
BF: There you go. What they needed was some nuclear weapons that were not under any official government control.
JAPANESE SHIP DRILLING TEN KILOMETERS AT EXACT EPICENTER
BF: There was a Japanese drilling ship known as the Chikuyu Maru that can drill ten kilometers into the seabed.
They were drilling at the exact epicenter of the earthquake.
We had an article from January 17th in a local paper saying they were drilling there.
They put the bomb in the seabed.
HAND OVER THE CASH—OR TOKYO WILL BE NEXT
This was an attempt to extort money, through terror, from the Japanese.
DW: So they warned Japan that they put the nuke in [the seabed] before they asked for money?
BF: No, they asked for money afterwards.
DW: Oh, wow.
BF: “If you don’t do it, next it’s Mount Fuji.”
DW: For people who don’t know, Fujiyama is right around Tokyo, which is the largest population center of Japan.
BF: Yes. That’s right.
DW: So basically they are saying they would nuke Tokyo, which is how many million people? Thirty or forty million?
BF: Thirty million or so.
DW: Right. Okay.
JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER HANDED OVER 20 BILLION
BF: The Japanese prime minister [Naoto] Kan originally was so cowardly, he just said, “Oh yeah, all right, we’ll sign over money.”
He handed over something like two trillion yen, which is about 20 billion dollars. And they gave him a big bribe.
MAJOR BATTLE WAS TRIGGERED IN JAPAN TO REMOVE THE CABAL
The evidence that this was not a natural disaster began piling up.
The result has been a battle here in Japan to remove these people from control.
WHY DO YOU THINK THIS WAS NOT A NATURAL EARTHQUAKE?
DW: Some people might not realize there is any evidence that Fukushima was not a natural disaster. Could you just briefly touch on a couple of points that you think are the most significant?
BF: If you look at the seismic chart, you will see a sudden explosion. [ There is no buildup, as you would find in a natural earthquake. The black lines in this illustration are what a normal earthquake looks like, as explained here.]
It’s not like a natural earthquake, where you have pre-shocks. It was just suddenly huge, and then it started fading down.
UNDERGROUND BASE EXPLOSIONS ALSO STARTED BIG
It was the same with the underground bases.
If you look at a seismic chart, it will look like a big line all of a sudden appearing, and then a smaller line afterwards.
There is no buildup, as you would find in a natural earthquake.
PLUTONIUM PUT IN FUKUSHIMA A MONTH BEFORE THE ATTACK
There is plenty of evidence.
The governor of Fukushima province told me they overruled him and put plutonium in reactor number 3.
[This was only] one month before the tsunami incident.
DW: Only a month before?
HOUSING COMPANY’S STOCK SHOT UP A MONTH BEFORE THE ATTACK
And then we had a company called Higashi Nippon House. They make cheap housing in northeastern Japan.
Their stock was shooting up in the month before the attack.
You’ve got to remember: Japan has an aging and shrinking population.
It doesn’t make sense for a cheap housing company’s stock price to go shooting up like that—unless there was something in the works.
POSSIBLE NUCLEAR ATTACK THREATENED TWO DAYS BEFORE
The other thing is that a group of us recorded a conversation between Kirk Campbell, who is your deputy foreign minister for Asia, and Japanese power broker Ichiro Ozawa—on March 9, 2011.
In this conversation, Campbell asked Ozawa not to split the ruling party and force the formation of a new government. [This could easily have resulted in a loss of cabal control over Japan.]
They said [if he agreed to keep the ruling party intact,] they would give him the rights to zeolite [they owned] in Fukushima province. Zeolite is used to clean up radioactive waste.
This conversation was recorded on March 9th—two days before the tsunami attack.
NETANYAHU PERSONALLY THREATENED NEW NUCLEAR DISASTERS
The other point [came in from] a man by the name of Takemasa Kawase, a Japanese military intelligence officer.
[He] subsequently told me that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu phoned Japanese prime minister Naoto Kan after the attack.
[Netanyahu] said that they would cause other nuclear disasters around Japan if they did not start handing over the money.
The chief Mossad agent in Japan, by the way, is a man named Michael Green. He’s a nasty piece of work, and we’re going to remove him from this country soon.
DW: One question, though.
BF: Yeah, but I want to…
DW: OK, go ahead.
ISRAELI COMPANY WAS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY AT FUKUSHIMA
BF: In order to confirm what this guy told me, I waned to check—and there was an Israeli company that was in charge of security at the Japanese nuclear plant.
DW: Oh my gosh!
BF: So I was able to independently confirm that through other sources. This is publicly available information—who was in charge of security at Fukushima. It was an Israeli company.
Now go on. What was your question?
IS ISRAEL A MEMBER OF THE CABAL?
DW: First, then, do you believe that Israel is tied in with this cabal you keep mentioning, in some way?
BF: Not Israel, but a clique at the top of the Israeli government, yes.
Most Israelis I consider to be chumps or victims of these people.
THE CABAL INTENDED TO SACRIFICE THE ISRAELI PEOPLE
For example the cousin of the Shah of Iran, among others, came to us with information that George Bush and his group had given twelve neutron bombs to the government of Iran.
[These were] missiles with neutron bombs on them.
[Elsewhere, Fulford has said these missiles were intended to be used against Israel. The cabal hoped it would trigger World War III, which would assist them in depopulating the planet and securing greater military control over the people.]
Remember—neutron bombs kill people, but leave buildings intact.
DW: Well, that’s not only treasonous, it sounds crazy.
BF: It is!
IRANIANS TRIED TO GET RID OF THEM—BUT THEY WERE REFUSED
The Iranians said “We don’t want them.” They put them at the Iraqi border and asked President Obama to please take them off their hands.
Obama just refused to listen.
[Elsewhere, Fulford has said that the “Pentagon White Hats” intend to restore constitutional government to the US after overthrowing the cabal, and want to keep the elected president in power as this happens.
I support this decision, and feel it is the best move to make in order to keep the public calm as this event finally comes to pass.
I would be cautious in blaming Obama personally for this alleged decision not to remove nukes from Iran without gaining additional information first.
The president is the intended fall-guy to draw attention away from the cabal conspirators behind the scenes. His true power is limited. Even if he did want to retrieve the weapons, he may not have had any choice.
It may also have been seen as a trap—far too dangerous to risk the lives of top personnel on what could easily have been a suicide mission.]
MOST ISRAELIS WOULD BE HORRIFIED IF THEY KNEW THE TRUTH
BF: Okay? And again, people at the higher level know this is true. In other words, they were going to offer the people of Israel as a kind of ritual sacrifice.
So the Israelis were victims. A lot of them were fooled with Jewish superiority talk, which is really the same as Aryan superiority talk—only you substitute Jew for Aryan.
They were chumps.
Most of the Israelis don’t know what is going on, and they would be appalled to hear it. It’s about a cabal that is above all that.
DW: And it has no religious affiliation.
THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH JUDAISM / CHRISTIANITY / ISLAM
BF: Well, they are associated with the Abrahamistic religions. Let’s put it that way.
DW: Going back to Babylon, Mesopotamia, all the way back there?
BF: Well, at least going back to the time of the Caesars.
RELIGION AND FASCISM
Let’s remember the word “religion.” The etymology of the word “religion” is religare in Latin, which means to re-bind.
What do you re-bind it into? A fascio. What is a fascio? It is a bundle of sticks, but it is also fascism.
MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION COULD BE USED FOR MASS MIND CONTROL
At its worst, monotheism—as practiced in the Middle Ages, for example—involved singular control over everybody’s thoughts.
Remember—in the Middle Ages, if you didn’t believe in the official Catholic doctrine, then you and your entire family would be killed—or tortured until you confessed.
DW: Right. That was the Inquisition.
BF: Well, yeah!
THEY’RE MORE SOPHISTICATED NOW—BUT STILL LOSING THE BATTLE
And it’s much more sophisticated now.
Five companies control all the major English-[speaking] media—including the TV, the newspapers, the radios, the Hollywood studios.
It’s much more sophisticated now. They’re trying to get everybody to think the same way—and they’re losing [the battle].
9/11, the story there, was just so full of holes and contradictions that they were losing a significant part of their brainwashed audience—including myself, because I was a high-level brainwashee.
PENTAGON BLEW UP UNDERGROUND BASES TO FIGHT GENOCIDE
BF: In any case, what happened was that there was a group within the Pentagon and the agencies and stuff that realized this plan was insane.
They knew that the plan to kill 90 percent of humanity was wrong.
They then blew up the underground bases the elites were going to use to hide in when they carried out their nuclear holocaust.
DW: Okay. I want to get back to that, because that is a really central point.
There is one question I want to ask you before we get to that, because that’s the conclusion of the discussion.
WHY DOES THE CABAL NEED TO STEAL MONEY?
Why did these guys need money? If they have so much infrastructure, so many assets, and massive political power, why can’t they just nakedly exercise power… move men around, move munitions around?
Why do they need money? Why are they going around like a crackhead looking for a fix?
Why are they going to all these different countries and trying to scam money off of them? Why can’t they just print dollars and make more money?
BF: Because people aren’t accepting their dollars worldwide.
You’ve got to remember there are 800 US military bases around the world.
If they can’t make the payroll for these guys, they’re going to be marching out of their bases with food bowls in their hands, begging for food.
THE ASIANS CUT OFF THE MONEY SUPPLY TO WALL STREET
BF: They’re being cut off from their oil, from their other resources. That was their Achilles heel—the control of money.
Their private army was self-financing. They had their own industries and their own income.
The US army is dependent on Wall Street financing. That’s why they were dependent on ultimately the Chinese and the Asians, who were financing Wall Street.
YOU CAN BE THE GOOD GUYS AGAIN
That’s why I told the Pentagon guys, “You can have a Starship Enterprise future, exploring the Universe and all that kind of stuff. Just work with us.
“We’re not going to cut you off. You’re not going to end up like the Soviet Union, where you have a general who is now suddenly being forced to drive a taxi in London.
“You can be the good guys again.”
A lot of them said, “Hey, I think that’s a good idea. We want to be heroes again. We don’t want to be the bad guys.”
SUPPRESSED TECHNOLOGY INCLUDING ANTIGRAV AND ‘STARGATES’
DW: You’re saying that they have suppressed technology that could bring us into the Starship Enterprise reality.
[Earlier, Fulford had said provocative things on his paid blog, as follows:
A third group based in the US military-intelligence establishment proposes a 5-year swords-to-plowshares transformation of the Pentagon.
This group has the potential to develop the over 6,000 patents that have hitherto been suppressed for “national security” reasons.
One technology they possess is anti-gravity. This would make automobiles obsolete and allow roadways to be transformed into gardens.
They claim to control technology that allows the creation of portals into other dimensions.
They claim (we have not seen proof but have heard this from many credible eye-witnesses) that many so-called underground bases around the world are actually such portals.
Hopefully we will soon be able to see if this is true. If so the implications are more than mind-boggling.]
5,135 INVENTIONS HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED
BF: I don’t know about [the Starship Enterprise being a reality].
But, we can confirm, according to the American Academy of Sciences, that more than six thousand patents have been suppressed for so-called “security” or “public safety” reasons.
[DW: This data point is in my new book “The Source Field Investigations.” The Federation of American Scientists revealed that 5,135 inventions had been classified by the end of FY 2010.
Among other shocking revelations, we now know that any power system that is more than 70-80 percent efficient at converting energy will automatically be declared classified.]
Some of these [patents] probably need to be suppressed. We don’t want everyone to have a backyard nuke, for example.
BF: But a lot of them, I’m hearing, were just kept [classified] because these people were acting like dogs in the manger. They only wanted the elite to have it.
MANY UFOS ARE FAKE
So my understanding is that, for example, a lot of the so-called UFOs are just sophisticated earth-based secret aircraft that aren’t available to the public at large.
DW: I would agree with that. Yeah.
ALIEN ABDUCTIONS MAY BE FROM “PLFs” OWNED BY THE CABAL
[In “Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge,” Dr. Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project reveals compelling insider testimony that UFO abductions are being carried out by so-called PLFs, or Programmable Life Forms, owned by the cabal.
There are no reports of “alien abduction” prior to the early 1960s with the infamous Betty and Barney Hill case. This appears to be when the PLF technology was first perfected and put into use.
ALL ET CONTACTS IN THE 1950S WERE WITH POSITIVE HUMANS
[Throughout the 1950s, there were extensive reports of people having direct contact with benevolent human-looking ETs who told them of a coming Golden Age.
These ETs appear to be the same people who appeared in ancient civilizations around the world and were labeled as “gods” or “angels.”
Many of these 1950s contacts occurred in the US and Canada, and were studied and compiled by Wilbert B. Smith—a Canadian government worker with classified clearance.
An entirely separate set of positive contacts occurred in Italy, and were the subject of the TV documentary “The Friendship Case”, in which key firsthand witnesses broke their silence and spoke about the events they experienced.
A great deal of valuable information about both the US/Canada and Italian contacts can be found in “1950s Human ETs Prepare Us for Golden Age” here.
BIOLOGICAL ROBOTS USED TO FIGHT THE POSITIVE ETs WITH FEAR
[The development and implementation of PLF technology appears to have been a direct counter-strike by the cabal against the positive contacts of the 1950s.
Greer’s contacts confirmed the PLF technology was acquired from ETs—and involves advanced cloning principles to create a “biological robot”.
Apparently, a human fetus is grown in an artificial environment, and without the pressure of the womb, it retains fetal proportions and features—including the large eyes, big head and thin body—on into adulthood.
POSITIVE ETs WOULD NOT INTERFERE UNTIL 2012
[According to the Project Camelot testimony of “Mr. X”, an employee for a major defense contractor, the positive ETs gave a very important message to the cabal in the early 1950s.
Several top-secret documents revealed that unless the ETs were specifically invited to show up by a majority of the people, and / or their leaders, they could not appear publicly and openly, on any mass scale, until the end of the year 2012.
This was due to their cooperation with a natural cycle in the Earth—which is apparently governed by a meta-intelligence that exists at the planetary, solar, galactic and universal level—namely the Source Field.
The prophecies and workings of this cycle, and its effects on human evolution, are explored in unprecedented new scientific depth in my book The Source Field Investigations (SFI).
SFI debuted at #18 on the New York Times best-seller list, increased to #16 the second week and is at #18 for the third week.
Our publisher Penguin, incidentally, is not part of the cabal, nor the top five media companies. Extensive secrecy was kept around the book until its release to insure it would not be interfered with.
PLFs USED TO TERRIFY PUBLIC AND PREPARE FOR “ALIEN 9/11”
[Apparently the cabal’s intention behind the “alien abduction” phenomenon was to terrify the public—and help set the stage for a fake “Alien 9/11”.
This fake alien attack has been extensively telegraphed in a multiplicity of different movies—18 different movies in the recent past alone.
The major media conglomerates are owned by the cabal and produce these “alien invasion” films for propaganda purposes.
ETs ARE NOW COOPERATING WITH EFFORTS TO DEFEAT THE CABAL
[I have sources with additional information that Fulford has only heard about in minor detail.
Namely, ETs have apparently been cooperating with this international resistance group to defeat the cabal.
This was totally unexpected, as the cabal was led to believe the ETs had to follow spiritual laws that forbade them from ever intervening—under any circumstances.
Advanced ET technologies are now being used to strike and disable cabal assets. Many examples have been given in my “China’s October Surprise” article series. Just read everything in David’s Blog on divinecosmos.com beginning from October 2010.
The joint campaign began last October—and many obvious, public targets were hit, all with zero casualties.
This included the powering-down of 50 Minuteman ICBMs—and top military witnesses have now publicly reported that a cigar-shaped craft was hovering overhead the entire time.
THE UNDERGROUND BASES WERE A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT STRIKE
[However, the destruction of these two major underground facilities is far more massive than other attacks that occurred in November and December 2010, and thereafter.
These earlier attacks did apparently wipe out a great deal of individual craft and munitions that the cabal could have used to fake an alien invasion, according to the insiders I have spoken to.
However, it was always done a little here, a little there—never all at once. This gave the cabal a false hope that they still had a chance, even as their infrastructure crumbled.
It is very likely that the ETs would not have destroyed two entire underground cities on their own. This attack was much, much bigger than anything else had been.
I believe Fulford is correct in saying that the “good guys” in the Pentagon did this themselves—to stop the genocide from taking place.
ONCE WE DEFEAT THE CABAL, WE STOP THE ABDUCTIONS
[Since the cabal is responsible for manufacturing and implementing the PLFs, the “alien threat” appears to be largely generated from within this group.
Therefore, once we defeat the cabal, we stop the abductions… and the UFO cover-up.]
LET’S USE WHAT WE HAVE—TO TRANSFORM THE PLANET
BF: And so, the point is, let’s develop these patents in a safe way, and you can have a boom time such as we haven’t had in a very long time.
DW: Right. Instead of creating these financial products that are just voodoo, why not actually build infrastructure?
The existing military-industrial complex, I would argue, is probably the only entity on Earth that has the tools, the factories, the infrastructure and the staff to be able to accomplish this.
BF: Yeah! Exactly. And that’s why the generals are now on our side.
The people who are not on our side are mostly bribed politicians in Washington DC, and the Wall Street crowd. So they are being increasingly isolated.
WHY IN THE WORLD DO THEY WANT TO KILL SO MANY PEOPLE?
DW: Now what possible reason could they have—these adversaries… Why in the world do they think they want to reduce population?
The average person’s mind shuts down because they can’t conceptualize that anyone would be that evil. So what’s their rationale, as far as you understood it?
MASS DEATH IS “GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT”
BF: The story they tell me is, “Look. We’re destroying the environment. There’s too many people for the planet to support.”
CULTIVATING THE HUMAN RACE LIKE GARDENERS
The other thing is these people are elitists. They believe in eugenics.
They say too many stupid people are breeding too much.
Useless eaters. All they do is they destroy the environment, and they don’t produce anything. They just sit around and watch TV.
We don’t need these people. We want to eliminate the weak and the useless, and just keep the elite.
We want to increase and improve the genetic quality of the human race by purging the garbage from the system.
And, we get to save the environment and create a whole new natural ecosystem.
The Georgia Guidestones has their philosophy written out. 500 million people on Earth, in harmony with their environment. This is their goal.
They put it in eco-terms.
THE NAZIS WERE ENVIRONMENTALISTS
People can forget the Nazis were great green people when it came to preserving nature and natural parks, all that kind of stuff. They were really gung ho.
In Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote that he wanted to enslave the non-white peoples and then kill them. It’s right there.
It’s the same group. They’re the same Nazis. The same philosophy.
[DW: Fulford didn’t mention that after World War II, top German scientists were brought over to the US via Project Paperclip.
The rationale was that if the US didn’t get them, they would fall into the hands of the Soviet Union, which was far worse.
It is a well-established, documented fact that Prescott Bush was one of Hitler’s main bankers and financial liaisons.
A “Business Plot” was attempted in the 1930s, by Prescott Bush and others, that would have led to the overthrow of American constitutional government and the installing of a fascist system patterned off of Hitler and Mussolini.]
THEY WANTED A SMALL, ENSLAVED POPULATION TO PAMPER THEM
The other thing the super-elite were saying was, “Hey, we’re really special. We’re really smart. We are the elite, and we should rule the planet like God-kings…
“We will need about 500 million slaves or so to keep us pampered, but the rest we don’t need.”
And it’s also about control. They don’t have the brainwashed control over large parts of the planet.
They realized they weren’t going to be able to control these people. So they thought “let’s kill them,” rather than lose control of the planet.
THE CABAL WANTS YOU TO FEEL HOPELESS… AND DOOMED
DW: Now a lot of people who read about this stuff online, the vast majority in fact—including most of the guests Jeff Rense or Alex Jones would have on—feel there is an incredible sense of futility.
Everyone seems to go with the knee-jerk reaction that all the governments in the world, all the countries in the world, everybody is in on it.
BF: That’s where they are being used and turned into controlled opposition. They are trying to numb people to the message.
“Yeah, it’s happening, but there is nothing you can do about it. It’s inevitable.”
That’s simply not the case.
DW: Could you explain why that is not the case?
THEY ONLY CONTROL THE G5 COUNTRIES… AND A FEW SHILLS
BF: They only now control the G5 countries.
DW: Which countries are those?
BF: Those countries are Italy, France, England, Germany and the United States.
DW: That’s it? You’re saying ALL the other countries in the world they don’t control anymore?
BF: If you look at the countries that accepted the new… I think maybe they’ve got a few subject countries like Honduras, Columbia and places like that.
MOST OF THE REST OF THE WORLD IS PART OF THE ALLIANCE
If you look at the African Union, they put out their own currency backed by Khadafy’s gold—and they don’t support this group.
Or most of the countries in Asia. Russia. China.
DW: What about European countries like Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Romania?
BF: They were at this meeting. There was a meeting in Monaco at the end of August.
57 COUNTRIES GATHERED TO DISCUSS HOW TO DEFEAT THE CABAL
57 countries were invited by the Swiss to discuss cutting these people off financially—and creating an international financial boycott against the controllers of the G5.
DW: Now that’s an incredible statement you’re making. You’re saying 57 different countries, including some of these Eastern European countries…
BF: There were representatives from the Netherlands and Canada there too, OK?
DW: Wow. What about South America?
BF: Yeah, of course. And since then, more than 80 countries have signed on.
IT’S GOING TO BECOME PUBLIC
We’re reaching a point where it’s going to become public. It’s going to be on the airwaves. It’s going to be on the news. They can’t hide it much longer.
DW: Why the hell haven’t they made this public already?
If people are dying, and these guys are trying to fake an alien invasion—that’s one thing we keep hearing, that they are trying to do an Alien 9/11—why haven’t they gone public already?
BF: You don’t think they’ve tried?
VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THE TRUTH PUBLISHED IN THE MAINSTREAM
Look, I had a book proposal at the Berlin book fair. Eleven publishing companies wanted that book out there, including five major ones.
They all came back and said they were told by their bosses they couldn’t do it.
DW: Wow. [In my case, the president of Dutton Books, a Penguin division, contacted me directly. Hardly anyone saw the Source Field book, or its contents, until it was actually published.]
BF: They’ve had people going and telling everybody I’ve ever associated with professionally that I had become an insane drug user.
They control the media. You’ve got to remember that. There are five companies. Five corporations—controlled by people like Rupert Murdoch, Redstone and stuff.
They have a grip over all the TV studios, all the newspapers, the radio stations, Hollywood studios, you name it.
THIS IS NOT A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
DW: So if their economies are going to go down, they can then say it’s a global economic collapse.
BF: And it’s NOT a global economic collapse!
SEVEN PERCENT WORLD ECONOMIC GROWTH OUTSIDE THE G5
Again, if you look at the public statistics, you will see that if you exclude the G5 countries, the average growth in the world economy last year was seven percent!
DW: Holy crap!
BF: People are booming! It’s not a world crisis—it’s a crisis among the countries controlled by this cabal.
DW: And it’s only the G5 nations. Wow!
BF: Yes! I mean, look at the statistics. They’re all there. It’s all in the public record.
You just have to look at government websites and check this out.
EVERYTHING IS AVAILABLE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD
There’s nothing I’m saying—including the plan to kill 90 percent of the world’s population—that is not in the public record. It’s in their own writings!
We have countless confessions. Wernher Von Braun, the guy behind the Apollo projects, said on his deathbed that they were going to use a fake alien invasion as an excuse for genocide.
It’s crazy stuff—but it’s provable.
These people don’t think like normal humans. I guess it was Herbert Hoover—no, J. Edgar Hoover—who said, when a conspiracy is so big, people’s mind boggles and they go into denial.
In any case, these people are coming down. We’ve got…
DW: (crosstalk) Right. Now you said something that is very provocative.
TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS INTERNATIONAL MEETING…
You said that there is this meeting that happened, with I believe you said 57 different countries, was it?
DW: And this happened in Monaco?
BF: Yes. And it was taken on board a ship which went into international waters. According to two witnesses, senator Jay Rockefeller showed up and tried to break into the meeting—and he was physically ejected.
THE CABAL SENT IN BLACK HELICOPTERS—BUT WERE CHASED OUT
Two black helicopters appeared above the ship during the meeting, and they were chased away by harrier jets.
DW: Now these black helicopters were like Apaches with weapons on them?
BF: I don’t know the details. I just heard that there were two helicopters, and there was a danger that they were going to use some kind of electromagnetic weapon against the ship.
DW: Oh, like scalar technology kind of stuff. Yeah.
BF: And I know that they were chased away by two harrier jets.
BF: US military jets.
THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED EVERYONE—AND TRIED TO MAINTAIN CONTROL
DW: If they had succeeded with those helicopters, what do you think might have happened there? Would everybody have just died?
BF: Well, they would have killed all the representatives. Then they would have said, “Hey, we’re in charge, and if you try to go against us, we’ll kill you.”
This is what they’ve been doing ever since World War II.
HOW COULD THEY COVER UP A MASS KILLING OF THIS SCOPE?
DW: If so many persons of interest died at once, wouldn’t that become a massive international incident that would require investigation anyway?
BF: They have done this before. The Titanic was sunk deliberately to get rid of six hundred senior financiers who were opposed to the taking over of the Federal Reserve Board.
BF: They would come up with some story about the Tragedy of Monaco. And the kool-aid drinkers out there would go and believe it!
I’m sorry, but that’s how it is.
[DW: Undoubtedly, the helicopters would have planted and detonated explosives on the boat after neutralizing everyone, and then blamed it on terrorists—and used the incident in an attempt to further their political goals.]
THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES CONFIRMED THE MEETING
DW: Were you at this meeting yourself, Ben?
BF: No. A close colleague of mine was there. And, I confirmed it from two other people who were there, who aren’t related to that colleague of mine.
DID ANY OLD WORLD ORDER MEMBERS GET TO ATTEND THE MEETING?
DW: Now what about people from the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, or Council on Foreign Relations?
BF: They were deliberately excluded.
DW: Any one of them, no matter who?
BF: No matter who. If they were a member, they weren’t allowed.
DW: And that’s also why Jay Rockefeller wasn’t allowed in.
BF: That’s right.
Remember the Bilderberger meeting that took place in June, in St. Moritz, Switzerland this year?
It was supposed to last until Tuesday. They all had to flee on Sunday night, because they were about to be arrested by the Swiss.
DW: Whoa! I never heard that before.
BF: Well, it’s there!
SWISS PARLIAMENT MEMBER BEATEN—AND CALLS IN THE COPS
Again, what happened was a Swiss lawmaker tried to get into the site and he was beaten up.
He went to the Swiss government and said “I’m a Swiss member of parliament, in my own country, and they beat me up and threw me out. That’s illegal.”
They said “Yes. We’ll go arrest them.” They all had to pack their suitcases and flee on Sunday night—before being arrested on Monday.
DW: So this would have been like a paramilitary swat team that would have swept in.
BF: Well yeah—the police authority.
BF: So there you go. The Bilderbergers were chased out, with their tails between their legs.
BF: That’s there for everybody to see.
HOW CAN THESE 80 COUNTRIES ACTUALLY DEFEAT THE CABAL?
DW: So you’re saying that this meeting in Monaco took place on a ship. You have representatives from 57 countries.
You said 80 countries now have signed on to this treaty.
Now could we get into some detail about why this is so significant?
What did they talk about? How are they going to pull off doing something like this, where these entities—these five corporations—control the world’s media?
Let’s go into that a little bit.
ONCE THEY CAN’T PAY THE GOONS, THEY’RE FINISHED
BF: They don’t control the world’s money, you see.
Once they lose the control of the goons, the people with the guns, then that’s it.
PENTAGON PATRIOTS WILL OVERTAKE CABAL MEDIA OUTLETS
At a certain point, I believe the Pentagon will probably send people in to the TV headquarters in the US.
You’re going to see new faces and a totally different story coming out on your TV sets soon.
DW: That’s also a very heavy statement.
ISN’T THE PENTAGON PART OF THE PROBLEM?
What is the context of the Pentagon in light of this meeting of 57 different countries?
Wouldn’t everybody in the Pentagon be part of the Bilderberg / Trilateral Commission thing?
BF: No. The Pentagon was represented there. The Bilderberg / Trilateral Commission was not.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PENTAGON SUPPORTS THE ALLIANCE
DW: What percentage of the Pentagon is on the side of this alliance?
BF: I’ve heard that the only generals who are not on board are [guys] like Petraeus.
From what I’ve heard, most of the Joint Chiefs are now with this group.
DW: What about lower levels of the hierarchy? Like the soldiers.
BF: The lower levels are completely pissed off. They support Ron Paul—and they know that there’s something totally wrong.
[DW: My own insiders have told me there is a massive struggle going on within the military between those who would arrest, detain and kill American citizens and those who would not.
The majority are rejecting the plans, roughly 80-90 percent, from what I heard. You can’t win a battle against those odds.]
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE READY FOR REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE
The opinion polls in the US show that 87 percent of Americans don’t trust Washington. That should tell you the mental state in America now.
And they are saying, “We don’t want these scumbags in charge anymore.” They’re angry, but they’re not sure who they should be angry at.
That’s, I think, how the majority of Americans think.
They know there is something wrong. They know it has something to do with Wall Street and Washington.
They don’t know the details, but they wish somebody would come in and do something about it.
And that is what is going to happen.
These people are going to go to jail.
THE “NEOCONS” ARE THE LEADERS OF THE CABAL
And I can tell you who the leaders are.
People like Henry Kissinger, George Bush Senior, George Bush Junior, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Tony Blair. We know who they are.
DW: So these are Neocons and their allies.
BF: Neocons is the label that you use for them.
That’s the group that had this crazy plan that somehow they could take over the world’s oil and still control the world through the 21st century.
We know who they are. When you take away that curtain, it’s like the Wizard of Oz. You pull away the curtain and you see a little old man sitting at the control desk.
(crosstalk) And that’s what happened when I went…
MANY MEDIA NETWORKS DON’T APPEAR TO BE NEOCON OUTLETS
DW: (crosstalk) Okay. I think most people would admit that Fox News and News Corporation could be a shill for these guys.
But to say… you’re basically saying that all the media in America, for the most part, is controlled by these folks?
Why would the media not all sound like Fox, then?
NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT 9/11 TRUTH
BF: How many major networks and Hollywood studios have come out with 9/11 truth? Okay?
DW: Good point.
BF: Just ask yourself that. And then you can understand.
DW: So you would say…
BF: (crosstalk) Look, I have to go, but what I’m telling you is this.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO SPENT THE MONEY
We’ve found this thing called the Global Collateral Accounts. It’s a codebook that shows who’s been using the world’s money since the end of World War II—and for what reason.
It has a list of names. For example, who financed the Vietnam War and why. All that kind of stuff.
We have these records now.
MASSIVE NUMBERS OF NEW WHISTLEBLOWERS COMING FORWARD
We’re having people abandoning that cabal like rats jumping off a sinking ship.
We have a world Who’s Who coming to us with information.
THIS COULD BE THE BIGGEST EVENT IN 2000 YEARS
When this happens, this is going to be, I think, ultimately the biggest thing—certainly since World War II. Possibly the biggest thing in two thousand years.
We’re going to see something… an ancient cabal that has controlled humanity through murder, propaganda and bribery for possibly thousands of years.
It is going to come to an end. It’s going to be something that has not happened in the history of our planet before.
It’s going to be incredible… basically we’re talking about the end of Babylonian-style tyranny.
BF: That’s how far it goes back.
VATICAN AND P2 LODGE CLAIM SECRET CONTROL SINCE JULIUS CAESAR
Certainly the P2 Freemasonic lodge and the Vatican claim that they have controlled things in secret since the time of Julius Caesar.
DW: Wow. [Another way of saying this is the Roman Empire never really ended—it just became more covert and secretive in its exercising of power.]
BF: I went to Italy. I met them and they tried to poison me. They didn’t think I would come alive out of Italy with the information they gave me—but I did.
[DW: At the time, Fulford did say these people told him about the 25,920-year precession of the equinoxes cycle. They inherited prophecies that a Golden Age would result from this cycle, and its effects, beginning after the year 2012.
They are very off-base about how the prophecy would be fulfilled, as I discuss in my new book—but they have always been keenly aware of this as their timetable, which is why there is such urgency.
Fulford didn’t cover it here, but both the Rockefeller and the Rothschild factions are being forced to step down and relinquish control by this 80-country alliance. That’s why no Bilderberg / CFR / Trilateral members were allowed in.
Some insiders have revealed they are already working out the terms of surrender at a very high level, and the process is quite unbearable for them — with lots of arguing and bruised egos.]
DW: Okay. A couple quick questions just to tie this off.
WHO NUKED THE BASES? WAS THIS PART OF THE MONACO ACCORDS?
Who did the underground bases, in your estimation? Who nuked them and why? Does it have any relationship with this meeting in Monaco?
BF: Yes. It was Pentagon white hats saying to the elite, “You’re not going to destroy the surface of the planet and escape yourselves…
“If you’re going to destroy the surface of the planet, you’re going to destroy your families too. You’re not going to escape.”
They made it very clear to them that they are not going to be able to initiate some kind of nuclear holocaust and be able to get away with it.
DW: Right. [There is extensive evidence that the ETs will not allow them to nuke innocent civilians anyway—but they certainly keep trying.
Events like Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Fukushima are much less serious than the scope of what could be done in an all-out nuclear attack.
Given the extent to which ETs have powered down any and all Old World Order nuclear assets, it is amazing that the cabal continued to be in denial and believe they would ever be allowed to use them on any significant level.]
NOW THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO HIDE
These guys must have always thought somehow that these bases were safe. And now none of them are safe.
BF: Yes. They had their greenhouses, and their food supplies, and their big-screen TVs, and their supply of women.
It’s like Dr. Strangelove. “We’ll hide in our tunnels with our young ladies while everybody else up on the surface dies.”
BF: “Then we’ll come out and we’ll take over the planet—and breed like rabbits.”
Well, that ain’t gonna happen. OK?
THEY NOW HAVE DETAILED MAPS AND FILMS OF ALL THE BASES
DW: You had said on your blog that some of your people who were there in Monaco have detailed maps of these underground bases.
They know exactly where they are. And footage of the bases was shown?
BF: That’s right. [The Pentagon gave this evidence to] the world governments to show, “Yes, it’s true. These crazy people were planning to kill 90 percent of humanity.”
The world’s governments know this.
HOW MIGHT THIS EVENT HAPPEN—AND WHEN?
DW: Okay, so how can we expect that this event will take place? What might happen and when might it happen?
What are we looking at? What are we going into here? What will be the precursors of this?
BF: There are several possibilities.
The one I’m hearing the most, the one that the Pentagon backs, is a lawsuit that would lead to the arrest of the top cabalists.
WILCOCK’S OWN TESTIMONY OF WHAT IS EXPECTED
[DW: My own insiders expect that the dollar is about to collapse, thanks to this coordinated international effort—followed by the official declaration of bankruptcy by the US government. That will be the immediate precursor event.
I have been told the insiders are considering seven different ways in which this collapse could happen. All of them are thought to be potentially very imminent, even before the end of the year.
No one is certain of the exact timing, though, and the “windows” are always changing based on unpredictable events.
The recent announcement of the bankruptcy of the US Postal Service brings us very close to this point already—as one example.
THEY’RE PRAYING FOR CHAOS
Once this dollar collapse / government bankruptcy is officially acknowledged and recognized by the public at large, the cabal expects riots and social upheaval.
Again, I believe they fantasize far too much about the scope and the severity of what will occur. It’s undoubtedly a coping mechanism.
The cabal members desperately hope the people will turn against each other, as it is their last hope to maintain any control over the situation.
The fear-porn scenarios I have heard seem utterly fanciful—particularly since the majority of the military will turn on those who try to harm the public in any way.
Some of the technology that will be used to turn against the conspirators is highly classified and highly effective. Most people will probably never know it was used.
These “fracking” events will be “friendly fire” indeed. And Americans are not going to hand over their guns and gold.
THEY HAVE PLANTED EXPLOSIVES UNDER MANY CRITICAL BRIDGES
I did hear that cabal insiders have already planted demolition charges to blow up a large number of critical bridges and runways—isolating various geographical regions and causing food shortages for a period of time.
This massive strike, of course, will be blamed on “terrorists” hitting America at its weakest moment.
This is one of the strongest real threats we face once this epic announcement is finally made. Exposing these plans spoils any element of surprise.
So many insiders are defecting that many, if not most of these explosives will hopefully be located and neutralized in advance—if they haven’t already been.
However, it may be unrealistic to assume that all of them will be neutralized, since they can all be detonated by remote control at the push of a button.
CRITICAL SUPPLIES WILL STILL BE DISTRIBUTED
They did hope this attack would lead to mass starvation, anarchy and chaos.
However, even with impaired land transit and airport runways, critical supplies will still get where they are needed by the focused efforts of the just—including the military.
The nationwide Eisenhower interstate system was built to be used as emergency aircraft runways, for example—and it is far too huge to be able to destroy.
Helicopters do not require airstrips either.
The official bankruptcy announcement, and the potential shock of widespread bridge and runway detonations, will be immediately followed by mass arrests.
This will include key staff from all three branches of government: senators, congressmen, judges and executives.
It will also include top military brass, top intelligence personnel, defense contractors, top media moguls, corporate executives, Federal Reserve Board staff, top financiers and “too big to fail” financial entities, et cetera.
Fulford has said that the Pentagon may now house these people, at least temporarily, in the very same “detention camps” they had originally planned on using against American citizens.
Karma’s a bitch.
TRYING TO FIND A HIDING PLACE
Everyone on this list is scrambling for a place to hide. The bases near Washington DC and Denver were both quite popular due to their convenient locations.
Most of the top people had comfy, personalized living spaces already set up in these locations—with their own memorabilia, keepsakes and nostalgic items.
Many of these people have also moved their personal belongings to purported safety zones in South America—and only have a minimum number of items left in their own homes in the US.
I am told the cabal members have near-instant escape flights planned. The pilots and aircraft are now on 24-hour notice.
Most of these pilots will probably defect.
I also have very good intel that the personnel staffing these safety zones have already agreed to turn on them as soon as they arrive.
Pilots who do not defect are undoubtedly in mortal peril if they attempt to complete these flights.
Fulford also said the South American countries themselves have now agreed to infiltrate and disrupt these zones—and their incoming flights.
A MILLION DISPOSSESSED SOULS
Fulford has talked at length about how the number of insiders who are fearing for their lives is about a million people.
They have been scrambling around the world trying to beg, borrow or steal any land where they could have sanctuary.
They have used earthquake and weather weapons to punish countries who denied them access. This includes the Christchurch quake in New Zealand after the cabal was denied use of their lush, southernmost mega-island.
North Korea is the first country that is even considering helping them, and this development has only occurred very recently.
Kim Jong-Il will only help them if they promise to help him regain control of South Korea. This entire plan is very unlikely to succeed.
And now, back to the recorded interview.]
THEY MAY SETTLE FOR A TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE
BF: But right now, they’re also trying to cut a deal.
[The international alliance is] saying, “Hey, look. If you guys will stop the nuclear terror, then maybe we’ll forgive you.”
It’s one of those situations where so many people are involved that it is better to have a truth and reconciliation committee rather than a bunch of arrests and beheadings, you know?
DW: So you’re saying that these underground nuclear strikes against the bases…
BF: (crosstalk) What I’m saying is that there either will be thousands of arrests of prominent people, starting with people like Henry Kissinger…
Or else, they will cut a deal—and appear before a truth and reconciliation committee in exchange for one time of forgiveness.
WHEN MIGHT THIS ALL COME TO A HEAD?
DW: Do we have a time window on when this all might come to a head?
BF: Well, it’s a war. Who knows what crazy stuff they will do next?
It could be as early as this fall. It could be as late as next summer. I don’t have a precise date.
BF: But I’m hearing we’re pretty close now.
[DW: My own sources have said that due to the massive escalation of threat with the destruction of the two underground cities, this event could come to a head before the end of the year.
Also, highly classified documents dating back to 2008 had given a time window of December 2011 for a planned evacuation of the White House due to an “alien invasion”.
So, in order to throw off these planned timetables, action is now happening very quickly.]
DID THE CABAL RETALIATE AGAINST THE RUSSIANS?
DW: Do you think the failure of the Russian airplane that had their entire hockey team onboard was in any way related to this war?
BF: It’s possible. But generally, they would rather get a bunch of generals than hockey players.
There was a crash off the coast of Brazil that was involved in this, I know. But I don’t know about the hockey players.
[DW: This is not what the insiders told me. I heard there is wide speculation that the Russian plane crash was a retaliatory attack.
Specifically, I was told that the average American sports fan is only about one percent as enthusiastic as the average Russian is about their hockey team.
Therefore, this plane crash was a groin kick to the Russian people, giving them a withering emotional and psychological attack.]
WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE CABAL IS ACTUALLY DEFEATED?
DW: OK. So just in summary, then, could you paint a picture for us?
Let’s assume that this happened. Let’s assume that these 80 countries get what they want.
Just pain the picture of what happens. Where do we go as a planet, and how long is it going to take us to get there?
BF: It’s just common sense. We have the technical ability to end poverty and stop environmental destruction within a year.
We just don’t have the institutions or the will to do it.
So instead of a fake War on Terror, aimed at financing the defense companies forever, in a useless manner, you have some sort of huge campaign, globally: the equivalent of World War III, but a peaceful one.
And then, start telling people the truth about their history—which they’ve been lied to about so much.
IT’S GOING TO BE LIKE THE FALL OF JAPAN OR THE USSR—BUT MUCH BETTER
[We will] start building new institutions that are fair, transparent and meritocratic.
Anybody can climb the pyramid and get to the top if they are good enough and determined enough—instead of an inbred family group controlling it.
The people of Japan went through it at the end of World War II. Suddenly they were told their emperor was not a god, and that the war wasn’t actually ending in victory. Soon everything was about to change.
It’s going to be like that.
Ask anyone who went through the end of the Soviet Union what it was like, and you get a pretty good idea about what is coming.
But, unlike the end of the Soviet Union, it is not going to be followed by hardship or poverty. It’s going to be followed by an era of unprecedented prosperity and happiness.
OK? I’ve gotta go.
DW: Great. Thank you so much.
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